Maintaining Students

topic posted Mon, November 2, 2009 - 4:01 PM by  sonia
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All,

Does anyone have advice as how how to keep students interest and stay in class. I notice some people paying for a full class, but they do not show up for all the classes! Then they dont fill out fedback sureys and i have no idea why they didnt come to class. Some students communicate to me when they need to miss a class so i can give them the material privately before or after class. but some just dont communicate...

Also any advice on being a successful dance instructor would be great!
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sonia
Maryland
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  • Re: Maintaining Students

    Mon, November 2, 2009 - 6:25 PM
    Sonia-

    I've been teaching since 2001 and the thing I've learned is that in the beginning many people think belly dance is so exotic and beautiful that when they learn how hard it really is and how much they'll have to work to look "like that bellydancer on tv" they give up and realize they just aren't committed to it that much. Also, sometimes they have family issues like having to take care of ailing parents or a death.But mainly many people wanna dance like Suhaila (for example) but not have to practice. Very few are those who stick with it long term.

    As far as being a successful dance instructor: know your stuff--how to explain a move, what muscles are involved, alternative ways to explain a move to suit people's different learning styles and also know something about the dance history and culture. Aside from that...just keep good records and paperwork. And, not everyone does this but I do--I carry liability insurance and I have each new student sign a release that a lawyer drafted for me. I used to work for lawyers and we are in a litigious society so it makes me feel better.

    ZD
  • Re: Maintaining Students

    Mon, November 2, 2009 - 7:08 PM
    Hi Sonia,
    I noticed the same thing when I started teaching about 5 years ago. I asked two very established instructors I highly respect about it because I thought maybe I was doing something wrong to be losing such a percentage of students. They both told me that there is always a high rate of atrition - sometimes as little as 30 or 40% of the class remains at the end of the semester. They both advised me not to take it personally. I'd definitely say you see more loss at beginner level than above - this group is less invested in the activity.

    A couple things I have done to counter this trend...

    I write my class curriculum in a progressive way. One skill builds on the next. I tell them on the first night that we'll be building on skills from prior weeks each time so they'll see the most success with regular attendance. At the end of class I tell them how we'll be expanding on this week's skills next week - make the connection.

    On the first night I give them a list of skills we'll be covering in the 8 week session so they see where we're headed.

    If someone is absent, I send a short email asking if they're ok and offering them to come to a makeup class.

    I arrive early for class and try to get to know each person, if you take a genuine interest in them, they take a greater interest in you.

    Something I thought might work but didn't with my students - doing a choreography. I thought that doing this would keep them attending but I found the opposite. If they missed one week - they felt so lost that they stopped coming.

    Hope some of that helps,

    Mahin
    www.shes-got-hips.com
  • Re: Maintaining Students

    Tue, November 3, 2009 - 5:39 AM
    I assume you're talking about beginners? Wish I had a nickel for every beginner I've ever taught :-)
    they're like delicate flowers that wilt in less than ideal conditions! Talk too much or not enough, you lose them either way.

    What's good about the atrition rate though is you'll end up with the hardier "flowers" that are more suited to your teaching style; also they won't be quite so shy to let you know what they need or don't like.

    So the best strategy is to be able to roll over your beginners from one session to the next in a short amount of time (I like monthly sessions the best) so if they miss one or two they don't get way behind, and the next session is coming right up. If you do 8 week sessions, they may drop out because they miss one or two, then find something else to do before it's time to sign up again.

    Also if you can have a "beginners plus" class where they can go after they've learned a few things, that's great. Then the ones who do show up & learn won't always feel like they're perpetually bogged down with newbies.
    • Re: Maintaining Students

      Tue, November 3, 2009 - 7:46 AM
      Anthea,
      Doing total beginners in 4 week sessions is a great idea! I wonder how I can work that into my schedule for 2010... hmmm.
      Another plus to this idea is that the shorter commitment of time (and money) may be enough to persuade those reluctant to go in for 8 weeks on the first shot.

      Good idea - thanks for sharing :-)

      Mahin
      www.shes-got-hips.com
    • Re: Maintaining Students

      Tue, November 3, 2009 - 9:38 AM
      Anthea-
      The 4 week thing has some merit. I usually run in an 8 week session and have for years because of the list of basic moves I go through. I've tried a 6 week session also and it was too short to cover the moves on the list.

      So, to have 4 week sessions is a good idea, but I'm curious as to what your outline is and what your goals for accomplishment are in 4 weeks? And, after the 1st 4 weeks do those hardline students move on to the next beginner plus class? How long is that class?

      I'm all for working on a new format...my 8 weeks sessions do seem a little long but I've been concerned about shortening them and not sure what content to put in them.

      I welcome any input on this.

      Thanks!
      ZD
      • Re: Maintaining Students

        Wed, November 4, 2009 - 6:43 AM
        They don't automatically move on after one 4-week session. Although some of them do ask :-)

        All my classes are open ended, so even though the registration is monthly, the course material for each class takes longer (sometimes way longer) than a month to learn. It's all written on their class syllabus so they know (if they remember to look at it).

        They can stay in Basics 1 anywhere from 3-6 months, depending on their ability to learn a clear skill set of combinations, then on to Basics 2. We also work on choreography across both classes, sometimes the same one, sometimes not.

        Both classes are billed as "for fun or fitness" meaning they can just stay there forever if they want to, but if they choose to advance (& I ok it), they'll have to work harder in Intermediates, where they're expected to practise at home.
        • Re: Maintaining Students

          Yesterday, 8:08 PM
          Anthea-
          I am thinking of following your 4 week format for my January 2010 sessions...at least for beginner class only have that class in 4 week slots...then keep the 8 week slot for my intermediate students. Would you be willing to share a little about what you teach? In my beginner class I usually start off with posture, standing shimmy, hip ups, Egyptian Basic, the Arabic foot patterns (from the Salimpour format-Jamilla), and work in some upper body/lower body stuff such as outward hip circles, figure 8's. That is a lot so I'm wondering how best to break down the moves for Basic 1 classes so that those who re-sign up aren't repeating the same moves every time.

          I would really appreciate more insight from you on this. And if you'd rather private mail me please do so.

          ZD
  • Re: Maintaining Students

    Sat, November 7, 2009 - 7:58 PM
    You generated a thought- does anyone ever turn their next week's material a little choreography to show at the end of class- so you can say "next week we'll be working on these moves"
    Perhaps *seeing* the cool new moves would get them excited about not missing it.

    But a lot of times people just get stuck in traffic and feel embarassed about being so late for class, put their hubby/kids' schedule before their own, have to work late,... after missing one class, sometimes it gets tough back into the groove- so gentle reminders that you are still ready to welcome them with open arms is good...

    I would hope you try to get their email/phone number/address info their first visit.
    That way you can send out emails the day before class or beginning of the week reminding them about the exciting stuff they have to look forward to.
    Even become their friend on facebook if you can because if you send little reminders like "looking forward to seeing you tomorrow night at 6" can be enough of a "Oh yeah- bellydance" to make them remember. Not only that but then all of their friends see it too & may ask about joining or hold them accountable a little by asking how it went, you know what I mean? I have a friend who is pretty religious about sending facebook updates to her students (or just her status updates actually) and all her friends leave comments like "can't wait" "see you there" "oh I can't make it tonight" "hey is there still room in this class? where is it?" etc.
    So I think that works well for her.

    And this is time consuming but personally I love getting a handwritten letter in the mail because it is so rare to find anything but nasty old bills most of the time. If I have an important event coming up I take the time to handwrite an invitation even if I do all the other digital stuff cuz I think people tend to delete stuff in their inbox they weren't expecting and at least a handwritten note is something they have to hold and touch and consider its value before discarding. It is a personal touch that makes people feel special- lets them know you care about seeing them.
    They know they aren't just some name on a list.
    • Re: Maintaining Students

      Sun, November 8, 2009 - 1:47 PM
      Hi!
      I always have my students come early to their first class to sign up. They sign a safety waiver, and fill out their sign up form, and I obtain their contact information (address, email, phone number, full name) as well as what classes they want t sign up for and the type of payment. I also handle payment upfront, and write them a receipt.
      This way, I get all the legal information out of the way and I get all of their contact info, which is absolutely necessary in case I get sick and need to cancel class, if I need to remind them they missed something, etc.
      :)

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