http://bdinstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#4603a4cc-c219-4ba7-910d-785d91f211a7 The Algerian and the Choo Choo are both Jamila Salimpour Format terms. :) Over the decades, I think people have morphed them a bit into their own way of doing things, or other people adopt the terminology for a different movement. Let's see if I can describe... The "choo choo" is single hips on the up, so that when you step on the right foot, your right hip goes up, and when you step on teh left foot, the left hip goes up. It can be done flat or in releve. (Although in Jamila's class we generally stay flat until we take it double time, and then we come up into releve). When one foot is on the ball and one is flat, the downbeat is on the flat foot and it's called "running choo choo." The "algerian shimmy" is when your hips are moving so that the L hip is up on the beat, full time. (alternating gluteous squeezes, full time, downbeat L). This means of course that your right hip is *down* on the downbeat. You then are alternating touching one foot forward and returning to home postion (feet together and parallel), quarter time. (touch right foot forward on the ball count 12, back in count 34. Left foot touches forward 56, back in on 78). It can also done at double these speeds (feet and hips)! Very important to keep both knees bent the entire time, both so that you have hipwork and also so that you keep your knees safe. Both of these movements are broken down in detail in Jamila's manual, "The Danse Orientale" which is still available from Suhaila's website. :) They also have a dvd series of Jamila's format, which has Suhaila teaching at, like, age 14 (not sure exactly, but young!)!!! I love that series! Filmed in the 80s, it has striped leotards, big hair, it's too awesome! And of course, Jamila still teaches a class once a week at Suhaila's studio. She's 81 years old and kicks my butt every week! The schedule's here: www.therealsuhaila.com Oh! And they just started a Jamila Format certfiication program with weeklong workshops in California. The first one is in September! Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:21:55 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#4603a4cc-c219-4ba7-910d-785d91f211a7 Kitiera 2008-06-10T18:21:55Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#be72b6b2-745b-49a6-b2c2-2a635e43fe56 The reason Tamalyn teaches the back foot turning to the diagonal for the Algerian Shimmy rather than keeping both feet parallel is to protect your knees. I've been in two classes with her where she specifically explained why she changed from parallel feet to the turn of the back foot. Makes sense to me and feels better on the body than trying to keep the feet parallel. Tue, 10 Jun 2008 05:30:38 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#be72b6b2-745b-49a6-b2c2-2a635e43fe56 Bellybabe 2008-06-10T05:30:38Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#dad469ba-4f40-4f1b-bf23-0d384d247434 Sorry to jump into this thread so late but I was trying to find out what a "wubba wubba shimmy" was. I did a Google search and ended up here. lol Is a "wubba wubba shimmy" just another name for the "Algerian Shimmy? Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:30:07 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#dad469ba-4f40-4f1b-bf23-0d384d247434 Sue 2008-06-09T15:30:07Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#9d9536fe-e9d3-4ddc-a29c-0c9604e8bdde Oooph- the confusion! Our lingo/format suggests: 3/4 shimmy can be done two ways : R-L-R, L-R-L... on the down or on the up this Algerian sounds a bit like our tribal Bicycle Shimmy. The hips alternately swing over top in a crescent, landing in front, and 3/4 shimmy on the down-it's very hard to do for most and can look like a bunch of santas'-meet-frankentstein at first till it gets tweaked, fine tuned and made smaller and more precise Our choo choo is not done by pumping the leg or by lifting and stepping on a foot. When facing 11 o'clock position, the right foot is cocked up on the ball. The left is flat the entire time and the weight bearing leg, in this case, the left, is soft. The softer it is, the more hip action you'll get. The rt hip pops up, up, up, up... To travel with it, the steps need be very small or else you may look like you are galloping and not bellydancing. It is a scooch, not a step or gallop. Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:06:28 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#9d9536fe-e9d3-4ddc-a29c-0c9604e8bdde K-Lee, just K-Lee 2007-07-19T18:06:28Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#a60e59cc-6a39-452b-89ba-68ad8f82191b Momo Kadous taught something with a banana in it- at Rakkasah East back in '99 or so- because it had a crescent in it. Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:47:24 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#a60e59cc-6a39-452b-89ba-68ad8f82191b Nina 2007-07-10T14:47:24Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#1ad81c20-18ea-4171-9374-0f207d2086f7 naomi, i am so curious to know where you learned. this is the same "algerian" i teach in cincinnati- seems to be a pretty specific tribal move... btw, it sounds like what everyone else is describing as "algerian" is what i learned as "bedouin" and our 3/4 shimmy goes "r-l-R, l-r-L" so that if you were wearing anything jingly it sounds like "chic-ka-CHINK! chic-ka-CHINK!" Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:12:47 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#1ad81c20-18ea-4171-9374-0f207d2086f7 fiyarfaerie 2007-07-09T01:12:47Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#0a101771-52ed-4a4d-8654-5da44a808966 ;-P I learned it as the "Hagalla" as well. The "Algerian" was throwing me way off. But there are so many descriptions it's mind boggling... Sigh.... Thu, 31 May 2007 14:30:51 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#0a101771-52ed-4a4d-8654-5da44a808966 Velvet Fifi 2007-05-31T14:30:51Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#7a79ef10-9dc2-416d-a178-9d901692b825 Thats what i learned from Bozenka, but it was an up and over shimmy---- a horizontal crescent from back to front while moving forward. She had called it a hagallah as well--- I was waiting for someone to ask that! Wed, 30 May 2007 20:01:03 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#7a79ef10-9dc2-416d-a178-9d901692b825 JoY 2007-05-30T20:01:03Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#17340949-cbf5-49d2-83a8-9af74f3ace9e From the description, it sounds like what I learned as 3/4 shimmy on the down with a twist, Hagallah style. :-)! Wed, 30 May 2007 05:41:28 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#17340949-cbf5-49d2-83a8-9af74f3ace9e Melissa 2007-05-30T05:41:28Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#b5d4b166-ddcf-4a14-9a76-cc40c4dbcd76 is the algerian shimmy the so call hagallah? if so, i learned it in a Mahmoud reda workshop ages ago Fri, 25 May 2007 20:18:12 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#b5d4b166-ddcf-4a14-9a76-cc40c4dbcd76 Eugenia 2007-05-25T20:18:12Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#82ee994a-f65f-49bd-9e3f-96ffd9af9609 I realize its been a year since this was posted, but I was just taught this this week. For the Algerian Shimmy we had our feet shoulder width apart. all the hip movement was done on the right hip. first you do two hip downs with the right hip, then you step forward with the right foot and do two right hips down, then you step the foot back to center and do two down hips right. Then, you step forward on the left hip (and here is the tricky part) and do two down hips on the RIGHT hip. Step you left foot back to center and do two more down hips on the right hip. Once you have that down you can do it walking forward and back. There is a turn you can do but we did not learn that yet. Your arms are wierd during this step. Your fingers are together and straight, not the usualy pretty way we do it! Your arms frame your hips and your elbows point to the back of the room. you can also do an offering hands to the front with your right hand on top of left palms up... Fri, 25 May 2007 19:53:22 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#82ee994a-f65f-49bd-9e3f-96ffd9af9609 Naomi 2007-05-25T19:53:22Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#fababc0d-2c56-4b37-94d1-b77cf1a8ef23 Both the Alegerian Shimmy and the Choo Choo are from terminology first created by Jamila Salimpour.. You can find it in Jamila Dance Book : Dance Oriental or the Jamila Salimpour Archive Series video http://www.suhaila.com Algerian Shimmy: Standing Feet Parallel in Releve/ Everey 2 counts alternate bringing your right and left foot to 12 o Clock and back to center while doing double time shimmies downbeat on the left. Choo Choo there are two types running Choo Choo and just plain old Choo Choo Choo Choo is singles on the up double time flat foot or in releve Running Choo Choo is left foot flat right foot in releve with alternating single on the up downbeat on the left while moving to the right. Hope this helps...Remember there is a whole running Choo Choo series:) Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:38:12 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#fababc0d-2c56-4b37-94d1-b77cf1a8ef23 Andre 2006-06-16T09:38:12Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#76769311-c336-4f6e-82ed-5231c5376ca8 It's probably not just a tribal v. cabaret thing. I've had two cab teachers in my area and danced tribal in San Francisco with FCBD and Jill Parker....sometimes the terminology is more different between cab teachers than with cab vs. tribal!! Sun, 11 Jun 2006 20:08:12 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#76769311-c336-4f6e-82ed-5231c5376ca8 casey 2006-06-11T20:08:12Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#9dcbb4ab-5f07-490f-a59b-fb5e10187c8e yeah...but here's a dilemna.....I am a cabaret teacher and have been getting an overflow of tribal students this past year..so the terminology for one move in cabaret is different in tribal lingo! but, we always seem to make do..and in ATS some of the movements are tweaked differently.... but the girls are pretty well advanced and can differentiate between ATS and cab....*whew* so what IS a banana? I've never hear this one either...heard Algerian shimmy & choo choo..but not that one I'll produce the DVD for you! lol~ that is actually a good idea! Fri, 09 Jun 2006 14:00:22 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#9dcbb4ab-5f07-490f-a59b-fb5e10187c8e Nedra~ Bellydance in WNY 2006-06-09T14:00:22Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#f2712c97-3e22-4228-bc6a-b0354e0f0c25 I agree with you, Mahin. This Algerian term I first heard from Tamalyn Dallal. Then I heard it again from Kaeshi of Bellyqueen which she told us she had learnt moves from Tamalyn. Now me and my dancemates are descendents from her... hehehe. Like if you call a reverse undulation a 'dolphin', I would know you got it from Dolphina... tee hee. Heck even my own teacher gets confused which is dolphin and which is camel... :O Wed, 31 May 2006 03:52:17 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#f2712c97-3e22-4228-bc6a-b0354e0f0c25 Nadya L 2006-05-31T03:52:17Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#3d961dfe-2384-4f26-9adf-78912741b24e I have a theory that you can trace a dancer's teacher lineage through the terminology they use. Anyone else observe that pattern? Wed, 31 May 2006 00:54:59 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#3d961dfe-2384-4f26-9adf-78912741b24e Mahin 2006-05-31T00:54:59Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#fe766e51-9734-43de-a10e-d03ed09d544e Banana??? Please... I wanna hear this Tue, 30 May 2006 21:25:37 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#fe766e51-9734-43de-a10e-d03ed09d544e Fajera 2006-05-30T21:25:37Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#44260c79-db60-4655-8ffb-4ccb9600cade The "banana"? I have GOT to hear this one Tue, 30 May 2006 21:21:03 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#44260c79-db60-4655-8ffb-4ccb9600cade Fajera 2006-05-30T21:21:03Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#26ae877b-5d7b-4a7a-92f3-cde521ed656e I'd buy it! Although I can see it being very looooong....LOL!! By the time it got through ALL the names of ALL the moves....oooey!! That'd be an epic! :) it would have to include all the "made up" names used too - like the "wubba wubba" shimmy and the "banana"....oh, the list could go on.... Tue, 30 May 2006 19:53:52 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#26ae877b-5d7b-4a7a-92f3-cde521ed656e Aradeeya 2006-05-30T19:53:52Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#e1dcb73d-0e5b-474b-a416-560fd80857e8 hehehe... your right Mahin... someone should come out with a dvd called 'The 1001 terms of Bellydance', and you have someone doing the moves and a voice over that goes this is called what and what with the description on screen... hehehe... in fact this is really interesting. I can see myself buying that dvd. Tue, 30 May 2006 03:21:27 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#e1dcb73d-0e5b-474b-a416-560fd80857e8 Nadya L 2006-05-30T03:21:27Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#30e97503-438f-484f-a16e-73d6582b1aa4 "The dictionary of belly dance is not uniform. " Now THAT'S the understatement of the year!! I think someone with way too much time on their hands should make video clips of specific moves and then we all submit the names we use for them. Wouldn't that be interesting?? Tue, 30 May 2006 02:52:04 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#30e97503-438f-484f-a16e-73d6582b1aa4 Mahin 2006-05-30T02:52:04Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#0b45a15f-8b7f-4e4e-9d4b-cf2027673b8a thanx Souzzon, you answered my question, more or less 'consoled' me that the way I'm doing the Algerian and Choo-choos are ok. Fellow bellydancers nowadays have evolved to so much terms, it's really hard for anyone to pin point what is what. I'll try and explain the Algerian again: Imagine you have a pencil sticking out from the side of your hip ( it should point directly to your R side). Now try and draw a circle using your R hip. The circle should be done circling forward. When your hip is lifted, lift your feet as well off the ground. When u lower the hip down, put your foot down too (forward). Repeat on other side. The footwork is just stepping forward like riding a bicycle. Mon, 29 May 2006 06:05:42 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#0b45a15f-8b7f-4e4e-9d4b-cf2027673b8a Nadya L 2006-05-29T06:05:42Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#ed25c367-75a9-4c2c-864f-b21ace977c53 I've not heard of the Algerian Shimmy, it sounds like the Turkish Shimmy to me, but I could be wrong. (that's the name I learned it by) The dictionary of belly dance is not uniform. I find that with figure 8's also. But from the way that you described the move: I 3/4 shimmy on my toes while doing an altenating down hip or half hip forward movement. (this can also be done on flat feet) I do the Choo Choo on my toes, my feet just move very fast across the floor. Fri, 26 May 2006 03:41:55 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#ed25c367-75a9-4c2c-864f-b21ace977c53 Radhiya 2006-05-26T03:41:55Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#239d0975-be3e-4048-95d5-81ed86063fde **head about to explode** - maybe this is what I know as an upsidedown 3/4? Where the rhythm is the same but the emphasis is on the down? ooh my achin' head!! :) Wed, 24 May 2006 16:42:32 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#239d0975-be3e-4048-95d5-81ed86063fde Aradeeya 2006-05-24T16:42:32Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#2cfd8607-1513-4b76-8456-eff007829299 never heard it called the algerian shimmy! but i've done the shimmy you're talking about, just think of yourself riding a unicycle but exagerate the hip drop. I don't see how anyone could do it with their feet parallel! We just did a workshop with Dondi and she had us do the choo choo, the balls of our feet pretty much stayed on the ground, you really have to bend your knees to, especially if you're doing it in place, much easier to do it while traveling in a small circle. Wed, 24 May 2006 03:27:37 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#2cfd8607-1513-4b76-8456-eff007829299 Souzzon 2006-05-24T03:27:37Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#8a31346c-127c-49c7-a68b-c8275c90a37c Yeah! that's the 3/4 shimmy from tribal (so I'm told) that is now really popular. I wonder if the move that people called Algerian shimmy to me is what you're talking about, because I don't understand your breakdown of it... guess it's time to go to a bookstore So hard to tell who is calling what moves what.... Sat, 20 May 2006 14:47:35 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#8a31346c-127c-49c7-a68b-c8275c90a37c Asyia 2006-05-20T14:47:35Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#96c4263f-6e8e-406a-b075-ee6b6337b48c hi arad... i had attended a workshop before conducted by Tamalyn Dallal. She showed us (algerian shimmy) briefly of how's it done. but back then i wasn't ready enough to take so much info and had forgotten the proper techniques to execute it. And later on i attended Kaeshi of BellyQueen workshop and there was this move again. but if you have a nearby bookstore or library that carries Tamalyn's book, you can see there's a page dedicated to it. as for it being called a 3/4 shimmy, im not too sure beacause i had learn another technique which is called a 3/4 shimmy, which is totally diffrent from algerian shimmy. this is from what i've learnt: 3/4 shimmy: the break down is like somewhat doing a small hip drop on each side of the hip. Count 1: shift your weight to the R hip. Count 2: lift L hip up. Count 3: Drop L hip. Count 4: Hold. algerian shimmy: i've only seen this shimmy done travelling forward. basically it look a bit like u cycling a bicycle. where u bring the foot forward simultaneosly do a small hip crescent from back to front. im just boggled by whether had anyone done it with 2 feet parallel... Fri, 19 May 2006 03:43:10 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#96c4263f-6e8e-406a-b075-ee6b6337b48c Nadya L 2006-05-19T03:43:10Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#27422862-98ea-4a79-a7fd-1160ac576b84 PS - two threads down is a huge amount of info on the 3/4 shimmy Thu, 18 May 2006 23:29:46 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#27422862-98ea-4a79-a7fd-1160ac576b84 Aradeeya 2006-05-18T23:29:46Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#2590a20f-9ae0-4df6-84e2-4f19816c0a2f 3/4 shimmy! aha! Wow - how come "Algerian"? Weird. And with a turnout? double weird. Wouldn't your hips open up? then you'd lose the emphasis (up or down, depending how you do it) that makes a 3/4 a 3/4. Thu, 18 May 2006 23:28:47 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#2590a20f-9ae0-4df6-84e2-4f19816c0a2f Aradeeya 2006-05-18T23:28:47Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#826b0b61-6bca-420f-a172-fe25a2b7835e HAHAHAH.... I swear this move's name changes more than any other! When I was in London it was an Egyptian walk, then in many places in the US it was referred to as a 3/4 shimmy and then, I believe because tribal became popular and they call something very specific a 3/4 shimmy, this became an Algerian shimmy. I loved the way I learned the Algerian shimmy! We did a Frankenstein walk! R foot steps forward lands with a dropping of the R hip, R hip goes up, L hip goes up, repeat on other side. Looks aweful slowed down, but once I got use to it, picking up the speed was beautiful and easy. Choo Choo, I've even had teachers show me the pounding into the floor method! For the most part, I'm up in Relevee and schooch my feet along the floor. I'm not sure they are ever completely off the floor, but they do have virtually no weight on them at some point in the shimmy. Flutter shimmies are what's killing me right now! I was lying in bed to go to sleep last night and practiced a little, My boyfriend was immediately totally grossed out because I had tons of liquid in my belly! The Diaphram moving around really made disgusting squishy noises! It was fun :) Thu, 18 May 2006 22:28:00 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#826b0b61-6bca-420f-a172-fe25a2b7835e Asyia 2006-05-18T22:28:00Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#ddd7ac91-e847-4a69-985c-f231579cdf30 I've never heard of an "Algerian" shimmy as such - is this a twisting type of shimmy? I'm intrigued! Does it go by another name? As for the choo choo - I was taught to pick the feet up, however not to pound them into the floor. I'm not convinced there is a "right" or "wrong' way to execute any type of shimmy, really. Thu, 18 May 2006 16:53:20 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#ddd7ac91-e847-4a69-985c-f231579cdf30 Aradeeya 2006-05-18T16:53:20Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#9107777d-bd4b-4f38-a2ab-5d0c4e15fe81 I learned the Algerian with your feet parellel. But I can never master it so I'm not the best person to ask... LOL! As for the choo-choo, I come up to relevee and lift out of my hips. I use my knees pushing back and forth to get the movement but stay light on my feet so as to avoid the sound like a herd of cattle coming at you. My feet just skooch across the ground while the knees work. Thu, 18 May 2006 15:56:22 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#9107777d-bd4b-4f38-a2ab-5d0c4e15fe81 Zahena 2006-05-18T15:56:22Z http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#e94824b4-8647-4c82-bfc1-d8bff5d7333f I'm trying to find out what is the best or proper way to execute an Algerian Shimmy and a choo choo. Algerian Shimmy: I read from Tamalyn Dallal's book that if you bring your R hip forward (cresent), your L feet should face slightly diagonal (toes pointing to L). A dance mate insist on doing it with both feet parallel to each other (toes facing forward). I find it difficult. Which is the correct way? Choo choo: Is the move executed with your toes on the ground (just moving hips on releve) or should one lift the toes of the ground alternately (like doing little steps). This apply to stationary choo choos. Thanx a bunch Thu, 18 May 2006 07:23:59 GMT http://BDInstruction.tribe.net/thread/4f1b484d-92b2-40a6-a6d0-987d57ab7d82#e94824b4-8647-4c82-bfc1-d8bff5d7333f Nadya L 2006-05-18T07:23:59Z